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Growing up, like most kids, I had three heroes:

  • Mel Gibson,
  • Greg Norman, and
  • Phil Kearns.

All Aussies. All champions in their own way in their chosen field.

To celebrate our 100th Profitable Farmer Podcast episode, it gives me great pleasure to introduce Wallaby great Phil Kearns (OAM).

Phil is without question one of Australia’s greatest ever Rugby Union players. With 67 tests as #2 for the Australian Wallabies,10 as Captain and 73 games for the NSW Waratahs, Phil was a key contributor to 3 successful Rugby World Cup campaigns, including the memorable 1991 and 1999 victories over England and New Zealand, respectively.

Beyond Rugby, Phil is a thoughtful, composed and genuine leader. A true gentleman of sport, business and philanthropy.

I was lucky enough to meet Phil recently when he opened the new clubhouse at the local Cootamundra Rugby grounds. The time he openly shared with my family, the kids of the Club and their families was incredible.

His passion for Australian Rugby, grass-roots footy, local communities, and youth development is inspiring. His contribution to the game of Rugby and its future in Australia is significant.

Enjoy this conversation where we connect and discuss:

  • the past and future Australian Rugby landscape;
  • the process to win the recent Rugby World Cup bid, what this means for Australian Rugby;
  • his career as a Wallaby; and
  • his take on leadership and how to get the best for & from individuals and teams.

There is always so much we can learn from spending time with people like Phil. His outlook is clear, concise and refreshing.

Again, I hope you enjoy this interview just as much as I did recording it.

Thank you, Phil, and congratulations on an incredible career and contribution.

Thank you, everyone, for being part of the Profitably Farmer journey – bring on our second century!

Hutch & Team

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